Discussion:
It's happening: "Kim's law"
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JNugent
2024-05-16 00:04:02 UTC
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QUOTE:
A new offence of causing death or serious injury by dangerous, careless
or inconsiderate cycling is to be introduced.

The law will be changed after a deal was reached between the government
and the former Conservative leader, Iain Duncan Smith, whose amendment
to the criminal justice bill was backed by 37 fellow Tory backbenchers.

Moves to make it an offence to cause death by dangerous cycling are
“urgent” and are not “anti-cycling”, Duncan Smith told MPs on Wednesday,
as he referenced the death of Kim Briggs in 2016.

She died in hospital a week after Charlie Alliston collided with her in
east London on his fixed-gear bike, which illegally had no front brake.

Alliston was convicted of causing bodily harm by “wanton and furious
driving”, an offence under a 19th-century legislation, but he was
cleared of the more serious offence of manslaughter.

Duncan Smith was watched from the Commons public gallery by Matthew
Briggs, Kim’s husband, who has campaigned for a change in the law and
accused the government of fearing a “militant cycling lobby”.

Duncan Smith said Matthew Briggs’ attempt to get a cyclist prosecuted
involved a legal process that was so convoluted that the presiding judge
had since said it was a “mockery” and that “the laws do not cover what
happened to his wife and is happening to lots of other people”.
ENDQUOTE

Of course, as one can see in the article partly quoted above, the Usual
Suspects are already attempting their wonted evasions and diversions.

Discuss...
Spike
2024-05-16 07:55:19 UTC
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Post by JNugent
<https://tinyurl.com/3ew5k3e7>
A new offence of causing death or serious injury by dangerous, careless
or inconsiderate cycling is to be introduced.
The law will be changed after a deal was reached between the government
and the former Conservative leader, Iain Duncan Smith, whose amendment
to the criminal justice bill was backed by 37 fellow Tory backbenchers.
Moves to make it an offence to cause death by dangerous cycling are
“urgent” and are not “anti-cycling”, Duncan Smith told MPs on Wednesday,
as he referenced the death of Kim Briggs in 2016.
She died in hospital a week after Charlie Alliston collided with her in
east London on his fixed-gear bike, which illegally had no front brake.
Alliston was convicted of causing bodily harm by “wanton and furious
driving”, an offence under a 19th-century legislation, but he was
cleared of the more serious offence of manslaughter.
Duncan Smith was watched from the Commons public gallery by Matthew
Briggs, Kim’s husband, who has campaigned for a change in the law and
accused the government of fearing a “militant cycling lobby”.
Duncan Smith said Matthew Briggs’ attempt to get a cyclist prosecuted
involved a legal process that was so convoluted that the presiding judge
had since said it was a “mockery” and that “the laws do not cover what
happened to his wife and is happening to lots of other people”.
ENDQUOTE
Of course, as one can see in the article partly quoted above, the Usual
Suspects are already attempting their wonted evasions and diversions.
Discuss...
It’s taken far too long to reach this point, but of course that doesn’t
diminish the success in getting this law on the statute books.

It can be fully expected that cycling lobbyists and media will howl with
anguish at being treated in the same fashion as motorists, at least as far
as this goes. But they called for harsher punishments for drivers who break
the law, and now they know what that feels like. They don’t like it up ‘em.

With the recent freeing of Auriol Grey, and now this new law, cyclists
would do well to be more circumspect in their cycling.

Banning public-road ‘time trials’ next on the list?
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Spike
Peter Keller
2024-05-16 08:55:34 UTC
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Post by Spike
Post by JNugent
<https://tinyurl.com/3ew5k3e7>
A new offence of causing death or serious injury by dangerous, careless
or inconsiderate cycling is to be introduced.
The law will be changed after a deal was reached between the government
and the former Conservative leader, Iain Duncan Smith, whose amendment
to the criminal justice bill was backed by 37 fellow Tory backbenchers.
Moves to make it an offence to cause death by dangerous cycling are
“urgent” and are not “anti-cycling”, Duncan Smith told MPs on Wednesday,
as he referenced the death of Kim Briggs in 2016.
She died in hospital a week after Charlie Alliston collided with her in
east London on his fixed-gear bike, which illegally had no front brake.
Alliston was convicted of causing bodily harm by “wanton and furious
driving”, an offence under a 19th-century legislation, but he was
cleared of the more serious offence of manslaughter.
Duncan Smith was watched from the Commons public gallery by Matthew
Briggs, Kim’s husband, who has campaigned for a change in the law and
accused the government of fearing a “militant cycling lobby”.
Duncan Smith said Matthew Briggs’ attempt to get a cyclist prosecuted
involved a legal process that was so convoluted that the presiding judge
had since said it was a “mockery” and that “the laws do not cover what
happened to his wife and is happening to lots of other people”.
ENDQUOTE
Of course, as one can see in the article partly quoted above, the Usual
Suspects are already attempting their wonted evasions and diversions.
Discuss...
It’s taken far too long to reach this point, but of course that doesn’t
diminish the success in getting this law on the statute books.
It can be fully expected that cycling lobbyists and media will howl with
anguish at being treated in the same fashion as motorists, at least as far
as this goes. But they called for harsher punishments for drivers who break
the law, and now they know what that feels like. They don’t like it up ‘em.
With the recent freeing of Auriol Grey, and now this new law, cyclists
would do well to be more circumspect in their cycling.
Banning public-road ‘time trials’ next on the list?
I agree that cycling lobbyists and media should be treated in the same
fashion as motorists anybody who causes death or serious injury by any
means.
JNugent
2024-05-16 12:40:03 UTC
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Post by Peter Keller
Post by Spike
Post by JNugent
<https://tinyurl.com/3ew5k3e7>
A new offence of causing death or serious injury by dangerous, careless
or inconsiderate cycling is to be introduced.
The law will be changed after a deal was reached between the government
and the former Conservative leader, Iain Duncan Smith, whose amendment
to the criminal justice bill was backed by 37 fellow Tory backbenchers.
Moves to make it an offence to cause death by dangerous cycling are
“urgent” and are not “anti-cycling”, Duncan Smith told MPs on Wednesday,
as he referenced the death of Kim Briggs in 2016.
She died in hospital a week after Charlie Alliston collided with her in
east London on his fixed-gear bike, which illegally had no front brake.
Alliston was convicted of causing bodily harm by “wanton and furious
driving”, an offence under a 19th-century legislation, but he was
cleared of the more serious offence of manslaughter.
Duncan Smith was watched from the Commons public gallery by Matthew
Briggs, Kim’s husband, who has campaigned for a change in the law and
accused the government of fearing a “militant cycling lobby”.
Duncan Smith said Matthew Briggs’ attempt to get a cyclist prosecuted
involved a legal process that was so convoluted that the presiding judge
had since said it was a “mockery” and that “the laws do not cover what
happened to his wife and is happening to lots of other people”.
ENDQUOTE
Of course, as one can see in the article partly quoted above, the Usual
Suspects are already attempting their wonted evasions and diversions.
Discuss...
It’s taken far too long to reach this point, but of course that doesn’t
diminish the success in getting this law on the statute books.
It can be fully expected that cycling lobbyists and media will howl with
anguish at being treated in the same fashion as motorists, at least as
far as this goes. But they called for harsher punishments for drivers
who break the law, and now they know what that feels like. They don’t
like it up ‘em.
With the recent freeing of Auriol Grey, and now this new law, cyclists
would do well to be more circumspect in their cycling.
Spike: The *innocent* Auriol Grey, I think you mean!
Post by Peter Keller
Post by Spike
Banning public-road ‘time trials’ next on the list?
Spike: Well overdue.
Post by Peter Keller
I agree that cycling lobbyists and media should be treated in the same
fashion as motorists  anybody who causes death or serious injury by any
means.
Well said, Peter, as always.
Spike
2024-05-16 14:15:38 UTC
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Post by JNugent
Post by Peter Keller
Post by Spike
Post by JNugent
<https://tinyurl.com/3ew5k3e7>
A new offence of causing death or serious injury by dangerous, careless
or inconsiderate cycling is to be introduced.
The law will be changed after a deal was reached between the government
and the former Conservative leader, Iain Duncan Smith, whose amendment
to the criminal justice bill was backed by 37 fellow Tory backbenchers.
Moves to make it an offence to cause death by dangerous cycling are
“urgent” and are not “anti-cycling”, Duncan Smith told MPs on Wednesday,
as he referenced the death of Kim Briggs in 2016.
She died in hospital a week after Charlie Alliston collided with her in
east London on his fixed-gear bike, which illegally had no front brake.
Alliston was convicted of causing bodily harm by “wanton and furious
driving”, an offence under a 19th-century legislation, but he was
cleared of the more serious offence of manslaughter.
Duncan Smith was watched from the Commons public gallery by Matthew
Briggs, Kim’s husband, who has campaigned for a change in the law and
accused the government of fearing a “militant cycling lobby”.
Duncan Smith said Matthew Briggs’ attempt to get a cyclist prosecuted
involved a legal process that was so convoluted that the presiding judge
had since said it was a “mockery” and that “the laws do not cover what
happened to his wife and is happening to lots of other people”.
ENDQUOTE
Of course, as one can see in the article partly quoted above, the Usual
Suspects are already attempting their wonted evasions and diversions.
Discuss...
It’s taken far too long to reach this point, but of course that doesn’t
diminish the success in getting this law on the statute books.
It can be fully expected that cycling lobbyists and media will howl with
anguish at being treated in the same fashion as motorists, at least as
far as this goes. But they called for harsher punishments for drivers
who break the law, and now they know what that feels like. They don’t
like it up ‘em.
With the recent freeing of Auriol Grey, and now this new law, cyclists
would do well to be more circumspect in their cycling.
Spike: The *innocent* Auriol Grey, I think you mean!
Oh, quite! No offence intended to the lady.
Post by JNugent
Post by Peter Keller
Post by Spike
Banning public-road ‘time trials’ next on the list?
Spike: Well overdue.
Post by Peter Keller
I agree that cycling lobbyists and media should be treated in the same
fashion as motorists  anybody who causes death or serious injury by any
means.
Well said, Peter, as always.
--
Spike
Spike
2024-05-16 09:27:12 UTC
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Post by JNugent
<https://tinyurl.com/3ew5k3e7>
A new offence of causing death or serious injury by dangerous, careless
or inconsiderate cycling is to be introduced.
The law will be changed after a deal was reached between the government
and the former Conservative leader, Iain Duncan Smith, whose amendment
to the criminal justice bill was backed by 37 fellow Tory backbenchers.
Moves to make it an offence to cause death by dangerous cycling are
“urgent” and are not “anti-cycling”, Duncan Smith told MPs on Wednesday,
as he referenced the death of Kim Briggs in 2016.
She died in hospital a week after Charlie Alliston collided with her in
east London on his fixed-gear bike, which illegally had no front brake.
Alliston was convicted of causing bodily harm by “wanton and furious
driving”, an offence under a 19th-century legislation, but he was
cleared of the more serious offence of manslaughter.
Duncan Smith was watched from the Commons public gallery by Matthew
Briggs, Kim’s husband, who has campaigned for a change in the law and
accused the government of fearing a “militant cycling lobby”.
Duncan Smith said Matthew Briggs’ attempt to get a cyclist prosecuted
involved a legal process that was so convoluted that the presiding judge
had since said it was a “mockery” and that “the laws do not cover what
happened to his wife and is happening to lots of other people”.
ENDQUOTE
Of course, as one can see in the article partly quoted above, the Usual
Suspects are already attempting their wonted evasions and diversions.
Discuss...
Road.cc hasn’t got into its stride yet, but here’s a start:

<https://road.cc/content/news/cycling-live-blog-16-may-2024-308403#live-blog-item-57781>
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Spike
JNugent
2024-05-16 12:44:59 UTC
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Post by Spike
Post by JNugent
<https://tinyurl.com/3ew5k3e7>
A new offence of causing death or serious injury by dangerous, careless
or inconsiderate cycling is to be introduced.
The law will be changed after a deal was reached between the government
and the former Conservative leader, Iain Duncan Smith, whose amendment
to the criminal justice bill was backed by 37 fellow Tory backbenchers.
Moves to make it an offence to cause death by dangerous cycling are
“urgent” and are not “anti-cycling”, Duncan Smith told MPs on Wednesday,
as he referenced the death of Kim Briggs in 2016.
She died in hospital a week after Charlie Alliston collided with her in
east London on his fixed-gear bike, which illegally had no front brake.
Alliston was convicted of causing bodily harm by “wanton and furious
driving”, an offence under a 19th-century legislation, but he was
cleared of the more serious offence of manslaughter.
Duncan Smith was watched from the Commons public gallery by Matthew
Briggs, Kim’s husband, who has campaigned for a change in the law and
accused the government of fearing a “militant cycling lobby”.
Duncan Smith said Matthew Briggs’ attempt to get a cyclist prosecuted
involved a legal process that was so convoluted that the presiding judge
had since said it was a “mockery” and that “the laws do not cover what
happened to his wife and is happening to lots of other people”.
ENDQUOTE
Of course, as one can see in the article partly quoted above, the Usual
Suspects are already attempting their wonted evasions and diversions.
Discuss...
<https://road.cc/content/news/cycling-live-blog-16-may-2024-308403#live-blog-item-57781>
What none of them ever say is WHY they "think" that chavs on chav-bikes
should be immune from prosecution when they kill someone.

Is there any other group in society with that level of legal immunity?
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